Today I Learned

"Logansteno: Bought a VW?" (logansteno) 12/08/2014 at 15:03 • Filed to: None

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"American cars are for ignorant white trash who are fine with shoddy workmanship, substandard engineering, and boring design" ...Apparently.

Okay random internet dude, okay...

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 12/08/2014 at 15:09

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Because America is the only place that has had shoddy workmanship. Because Italy, France, Britain, and Germany all make perfect cars that never go wrong...

macanamera > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 12/08/2014 at 15:09

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British cars last forever, duh.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 12/08/2014 at 15:10

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Literally what I thought the whole time I was reading the thread. And this is exactly what someone pointed out to them. I wasn't about to comment though.

macanamera > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 12/08/2014 at 15:11

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Link pls

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > macanamera 12/08/2014 at 15:12

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Dude, Leyland is who Toyota took inspiration from for their reliability.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 12/08/2014 at 15:12

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Stigma takes a while to get over. If you go back just ten years this is what you get.

Herr Quattro - Has a 4-Motion > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 12/08/2014 at 15:13

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Well...

Outside of that ad campaign:

macanamera > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 12/08/2014 at 15:13

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Lucas Electrics: Get Home Before Dark

Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 12/08/2014 at 15:18

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Can we have a recurring segment of "Breaking news from the front page:"?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > macanamera 12/08/2014 at 15:22

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Joseph Lucas, the Prince of darkness.

macanamera > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 12/08/2014 at 15:24

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Did you know that Lucas invented the intermittent wiper?

shop-teacher > macanamera 12/08/2014 at 15:26

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Here. I got my dig in on him.

shop-teacher > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 12/08/2014 at 15:26

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Yeah, that was an interesting one.

shop-teacher > Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again. 12/08/2014 at 15:27

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I like this idea very much!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > macanamera 12/08/2014 at 15:28

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Not working and making the lights dim?

MIATAAAA > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 12/08/2014 at 15:31

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And don't forget about England - the land where everything produced works perfectly all the time.

macanamera > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 12/08/2014 at 15:31

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Lucas did not invent darkness, of course. They invented sudden, unexpected darkness.

deekster_caddy > macanamera 12/08/2014 at 15:32

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You'll notice how I never take pictures of my MG at night!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > MIATAAAA 12/08/2014 at 15:33

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Britain includes England.

deekster_caddy > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 12/08/2014 at 15:33

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A lot has changed in a decade!!! (I keep telling people this but mostly they don't listen)

MIATAAAA > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 12/08/2014 at 15:36

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Haha. Noted. I read your list too quickly.

Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 12/08/2014 at 15:36

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This is why I don't even touch the FP. Annoying trolls like him.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > shop-teacher 12/08/2014 at 15:45

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I was reading that I and was shocked by what he said TBH. Like damn that's horrible.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage 12/08/2014 at 15:45

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I shouldn't, but some stuff is interesting. Maybe just not read the comments.

Tinfoil Hat in a thunderstorm, now with added diecast > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 12/08/2014 at 15:46

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Really? Wonder if the conversation went something like this. Toyota QC" Leyland is crap, let's not be crap"

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Tinfoil Hat in a thunderstorm, now with added diecast 12/08/2014 at 15:49

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Actually, that is how Japanese cars took off lol. When people realized they could buy something cheaper that actually started , the rest became history.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 12/08/2014 at 15:51

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You could make this argument for a few countries though. Mostly Japan IMO.

A lot of companies were making bland and uninspired things in the early 2000s. The only place making stuff that was good was the Germans, and that was plagued with unreliability.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 12/08/2014 at 15:57

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The difference, especially with Toyota and Honda is the quality of materials were higher in their products. American cars were plagued with quality issues for decades. That Camry posted is probably doing fine, but the Taurus I posted probably has some rust issues on the rear wheel wells and a sagging rear end.

That Corolla is probably up in the 150,000 mile range and still kicking and the Aveo, well, a lot of things probably have gone wrong with the Aveo.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 12/08/2014 at 16:20

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The rust and sagging rear end on the Taurus are due to the owner's neglect most likely and not Ford's quality. My girlfriend drove a '98 Camry that had rust in the rear wheel wheels and suspension issues until the motor blew at 121k and now she drives an '02 Taurus that still looks and drives factory fresh at almost 150k.

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to compare the Corolla to a Cavalier, a car that does not die. The Aveo is more Echo sized.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 12/08/2014 at 16:35

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Probably, even then all you have to do is look at the sale prices of those cars to see which ones are more desirable in the market. From my local CL, 2004 Chevy Cavalier LS Sport, 78,000 miles price is $4,600. Compare that to a 2004 Toyota Corolla LE with 68,000 miles price is $7500. Hell my GP would pull about $5,000 in the used market, the equivalent Camry would pull $7,000, with less equipment.

And my uncle had multiple of those Taurus's. Swore by them, but no matter how well he took care of them rust always hit the rear wheel wells. Its the Ford curse.

I'm not saying these are bad cars, they just dont use the highest quality materials. And that was 10 years ago, the game is much different today.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 12/08/2014 at 17:20

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People are just bothered that we're making better cars than the Germans right now.

#ShotsFired